<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16793872.post5204113993983623756..comments</id><updated>2012-01-01T18:14:15.021-08:00</updated><category term='pictures'/><category term='Arthur Jarvinen'/><category term='performers'/><category term='Arnold Schoenberg'/><category term='John Adams'/><category term='Second Second Story Series'/><category term='Morton Feldman'/><category term='experimental_music'/><category term='movies'/><category term='books'/><category term='death'/><category term='Stravinsky'/><category term='art'/><category term='Mingus'/><category term='fallen avocados'/><category term='links and blogs'/><category term='improvisation'/><category term='sciencefiction'/><category term='Hawaii_2007'/><category term='doodles'/><category term='family'/><category term='video'/><category term='60&apos;s'/><category term='Mixed Meters Movie Moments'/><category term='dance'/><category term='composing'/><category term='opera'/><category term='Computer Headaches'/><category term='humor'/><category term='obituary'/><category term='50&apos;s'/><category term='walking'/><category term='business'/><category term='Hitler or Nazis'/><category term='Leslie in Russia'/><category term='John Cage'/><category term='Starbucks'/><category term='death of classical music'/><category term='penis'/><category term='dogs'/><category term='Christmas'/><category term='rants'/><category term='cats'/><category term='Products and Companies with Musical Names'/><category term='3 Minute Climax'/><category term='10 Minute Break'/><category term='Frank Zappa'/><category term='David&apos;s favorite music'/><category term='writers'/><category term='80&apos;s'/><category term='ICA'/><category term='plant pictures'/><category term='David Ocker'/><category term='Docker awards'/><category term='blank wall'/><category term='software'/><category term='holidays'/><category term='Japan'/><category term='Jingle Bells'/><category term='composers'/><category term='stories'/><category term='40&apos;s'/><category term='architecture'/><category term='David&apos;s Music'/><category term='Media'/><category term='npr'/><category term='animals'/><category term='30 Second Spot'/><category term='jazz'/><category term='reviewers'/><category term='Barbie'/><category term='parades'/><category term='Los Angeles'/><category term='Composer Head'/><category term='found_objects'/><category term='Iowa'/><category term='worms'/><category term='advertising'/><category term='Pasadena_CA'/><category term='Cal Arts'/><category term='biology'/><category term='animation'/><category term='Wagner'/><category term='Best of'/><category term='Mozart'/><category term='Leslie'/><category term='clarinet'/><category term='albums'/><category term='70&apos;s'/><category term='radio'/><category term='classical music'/><category term='Internet'/><category term='instruments'/><category term='California'/><category term='politics'/><category term='culture'/><category term='David&apos;s Pictures (4 or more)'/><category term='music'/><category term='notation'/><category term='abstract pictures'/><category term='museums'/><category term='Ring Festival LA'/><category term='television'/><category term='Pasadena_CA art'/><category term='words'/><category term='William Kraft'/><category term='Esa-Pekka Salonen'/><category term='food'/><category term='San Francisco'/><category term='concerts'/><category term='religion'/><category term='bunnies and balloons'/><title type='text'>Comments on Mixed Meters: Occupy New Music</title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://mixedmeters.com/feeds/5204113993983623756/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/16793872/5204113993983623756/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://mixedmeters.com/2011/11/occupy-new-music.html'/><author><name>David Ocker</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/03468370745653879674</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='24' height='32' src='http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/8164/1603/1600/DavidOcker.jpg'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>5</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16793872.post-4245741550441563799</id><published>2012-01-01T18:09:10.257-08:00</published><updated>2012-01-01T18:09:10.257-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Interesting post. 

My take on new music is that p...</title><content type='html'>Interesting post. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;My take on new music is that people enjoy melody. Our caveman brains like hearing songs and stories around the campfire. The craziest science fiction film can be broken down to a story that anyone can understand, Star Wars is a basic hero&amp;#39;s journey right from Greek theater. All of the composers you listed (except for Bartok and Mahler) created great, singable melodies. They found new ways to create them and present them, but the melody helps us identify with the piece. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Melody seems antithetic to new music, like you can&amp;#39;t create art with melody at the same time. But people want to hear that, which is why a John Williams concert sells out faster than John Cage ever will. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Another problem is the way music is distributed, which makes it difficult for artists in any genre to break out. There&amp;#39;s not a radio station in LA that plays new rock and roll let alone new concert music. (I guess Jim Sveda kicks out some new pieces sometimes.) &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Finally, composers today should get good at using samples. There&amp;#39;s no excuse why you can&amp;#39;t have a really convincing orchestral mockup of your piece to help get it commissioned. I know nothing about concert music, only film scoring, so I might be completely wrong on this. But at least you&amp;#39;ll hear what it can sound like.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/16793872/5204113993983623756/comments/default/4245741550441563799'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/16793872/5204113993983623756/comments/default/4245741550441563799'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://mixedmeters.com/2011/11/occupy-new-music.html?showComment=1325470150257#c4245741550441563799' title=''/><author><name>synthetic</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06250942045588541514</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://mixedmeters.com/2011/11/occupy-new-music.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16793872.post-5204113993983623756' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/16793872/posts/default/5204113993983623756' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-1781671219'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16793872.post-1946762181706990106</id><published>2011-12-01T15:28:05.334-08:00</published><updated>2011-12-01T15:28:05.334-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Although most subscribers pay for what they know, ...</title><content type='html'>Although most subscribers pay for what they know, when they are exposed to newer works that are good, and highlight some virtuosity or musicality, they love it.&lt;br /&gt;I&amp;#39;ve seen this first hand at a few concerts by the L.A. Phil and Peter Serkin&amp;#39;s performances of Messian and Henze, played alongside Bruckner or Stravinsky.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/16793872/5204113993983623756/comments/default/1946762181706990106'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/16793872/5204113993983623756/comments/default/1946762181706990106'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://mixedmeters.com/2011/11/occupy-new-music.html?showComment=1322782085334#c1946762181706990106' title=''/><author><name>Anonymous</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img1.blogblog.com/img/blank.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://mixedmeters.com/2011/11/occupy-new-music.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16793872.post-5204113993983623756' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/16793872/posts/default/5204113993983623756' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-1058242427'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16793872.post-9099124730602853148</id><published>2011-11-30T15:05:21.114-08:00</published><updated>2011-11-30T15:05:21.114-08:00</updated><title type='text'>It&amp;#39;s out there in abundance.  It&amp;#39;s just no...</title><content type='html'>It&amp;#39;s out there in abundance.  It&amp;#39;s just not in the traditional concert hall.  It used to be in cassette culture.  Now it is in creative commons culture.  One good place to start is clinicalarchives.blogspot.com, which I have nothing to do with other than being a listener.  www.archive.org is also a good place to find a lot of it.  To get the new music of today you have to be in tune with how to be an audient of today, and it&amp;#39;s not the way it was 100 years ago.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/16793872/5204113993983623756/comments/default/9099124730602853148'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/16793872/5204113993983623756/comments/default/9099124730602853148'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://mixedmeters.com/2011/11/occupy-new-music.html?showComment=1322694321114#c9099124730602853148' title=''/><author><name>K</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/16745767804960038086</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://mixedmeters.com/2011/11/occupy-new-music.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16793872.post-5204113993983623756' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/16793872/posts/default/5204113993983623756' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-414112069'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16793872.post-1099619446587262531</id><published>2011-11-30T09:02:14.675-08:00</published><updated>2011-11-30T09:02:14.675-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Thanks for doing the math.  Trying to hear &amp;quot;n...</title><content type='html'>Thanks for doing the math.  Trying to hear &amp;quot;new&amp;quot; classical music in a large concert hall or on the radio or getting it performed (or heaven forbid reviewed) is so difficult it feels like 1%.In an odd way it makes me really realize how small 1% is.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/16793872/5204113993983623756/comments/default/1099619446587262531'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/16793872/5204113993983623756/comments/default/1099619446587262531'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://mixedmeters.com/2011/11/occupy-new-music.html?showComment=1322672534675#c1099619446587262531' title=''/><author><name>Ellen Burr</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/15032884848116946183</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://mixedmeters.com/2011/11/occupy-new-music.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16793872.post-5204113993983623756' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/16793872/posts/default/5204113993983623756' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-1581317454'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16793872.post-643646494610193113</id><published>2011-11-30T06:23:27.658-08:00</published><updated>2011-11-30T06:23:27.658-08:00</updated><title type='text'>That&amp;#39;s probably the biggest reason why I&amp;#39;m...</title><content type='html'>That&amp;#39;s probably the biggest reason why I&amp;#39;m doing mostly computer music these days.  While I love working with musicians, I&amp;#39;m kind of tired of being limited to solo or small chamber works.  &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Not holding my breath for orchestras to play my stuff, either.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/16793872/5204113993983623756/comments/default/643646494610193113'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/16793872/5204113993983623756/comments/default/643646494610193113'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://mixedmeters.com/2011/11/occupy-new-music.html?showComment=1322663007658#c643646494610193113' title=''/><author><name>Garpu</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/09460312942820868366</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://mixedmeters.com/2011/11/occupy-new-music.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16793872.post-5204113993983623756' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/16793872/posts/default/5204113993983623756' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-584804918'/></entry></feed>
